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robstent - 27/11/2018 01:51:33
   
New to Ultra running
I’m hoping to do my first 50km mountain race here in New Zealand in March 2019. Firstly I have become pretty confused at the myriad of training plans out there (different ideas from different so called experts)so could anyone direct me to a good basic plan I can work from?
Secondly, any recommendations on brands of shoes that would be ideal for this race?
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shaneUltra - 29/11/2018 12:25:35
   
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Hi Rob,

I am in the same situation and looking for a training plan for mountain runs. I am over 50 now and suspect that has an effect on the plan. Maybe less speed, more endurance and rest.

Also as the race is in March, winter conditions here (Ireland) make long mountain training runs a bit difficult.

Would be keen to hear suggestions from people.

Cheers

Shane

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SarahCrunning - 29/11/2018 19:22:21
   
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Hi Rob and Shane,

I think the reason that there are so many plans out there is that every runner is different, and different approaches suit different people. There is no one ‘right’ way to train for any race, but there are a myriad of unhelpful approaches. Assuming you have completed some marathons or longish mountain runs/races, you will have an idea of what works for you and how to adapt a plan to fit around your lifestyle. I would recommend browsing our articles. For example, you could head to the kit section (https://www.runultra.co.uk/Articles?categoryname=Kit) and read some shoe reviews to see which might suit you for mountain running. You can also browse our content by keyword, or just scroll through our most recent articles to see what might be helpful.

Here are a few articles I think may be of use to you both:

MOUNTAIN SPECIFIC TRAINING PLANS/GUIDES

https://www.runultra.co.uk/Training/July-2016/The-ultimate-guide-on-how-to-run-a-mountain-ultra

https://trailrunnermag.com/training/specific-training-for-mountain-running.html

https://www.runultra.co.uk/Training/May-2016/Mountain-ultra-running-training-programme

50KM/FIRST ULTRA TRAINING PLANS/GUIDES

https://www.runultra.co.uk/Training/January-2018/How-to-tackle-your-first-ultra

https://www.runultra.co.uk/Training/November-2015/50km-training-plan

https://www.runultra.co.uk/Training/February-2016/Everything-you-need-to-know-to-run-a-50km-ultra

MOUNTAIN NUTRITION

https://www.runultra.co.uk/Training/March-2016/Nutrition-for-mountain-trail-and-ultra-running

Hope these help a bit. Good luck!

Sarah
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shaneUltra - 30/11/2018 14:10:26
   
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Thanks Sarah,

Excellent articles. Found a few of them yesterday and its great to have so much information at our fingertips.

Plan half worked out.

Shane

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SarahCrunning - 30/11/2018 15:07:38
   
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That's great :-)
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robstent - 30/11/2018 22:06:00
   
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Yes thanks heaps Sarah. Slowly getting through the articles you posted. Some really great information.
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robstent - 30/11/2018 22:13:56
   
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Hi Shane
I’m in a similar situation in that I’m 62 at the moment so as with yourself it’ll certainly have a bearing on training. Fortunately it is summer here so don’t have the added issue around weather/cold. The race is at the end of our summer as well although from memory there will around 2500-3000m of elevation and our weather patterns can be very changeable.
Keep me posted with your progress and if you have any tips that work for you let me know. 😁
Cheers

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SarahCrunning - 30/11/2018 23:27:01
   
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No problem - glad it was helpful.
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charliewhitetiger - 04/12/2018 13:06:42
   
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The biggest piece of advice I can give you is to invest in some walking poles - black diamond Z's are the ones you want. A game changer if you are doing an event with any vert.

I brought a pair before I did the CCC last September (6,500m++) and now use them if I ever do an event with more than 1500m+ of vertical gain.

Also, chuck in some hill training into your programme to work your muscles (try weekly or monthly accumulation of vertical gain e.g 2000m total over the course of a month to get you started).

Finally, remember walking up hills is key unless you are a natural born mountain goat. 90% or more of people on events walk the uphills, if you try running you'll soon waste yourself and possibly harm the rest of the event.

Just my two pennies worth :-) Have fun and good luck!

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shaneUltra - 04/12/2018 14:49:48
   
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Thanks Guys,

Training plan starts this week but i am already at a decent level of fitness so not too taxing just yet.
Trying to get two train runs in a week and found a route that gives an opportunity to do 600 meter loops over 11k and not be subject to the weather too much. Ground is technical which is an area i feel i need improving.

Had a look at the Black Diamond poles and luckily the company i work for sells outdoor equipment including that brand.

Other than improving travelling over technical ground i am introducing core work (as i have the upper body strength of a road runner).

Hopefully i can establish a routine over the next few weeks.

Thanks

Shane

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